I have a Synology that needs more storage. Thoughts on WD vs Seagate?

I’ve always bought WD Red, but with the recent WD controversies (including the SMR/CMR scandal and the recent WDDA warning), I’m considering Seagate. Also, I can’t find any difference between the IronWolf Pro and Exos drives. What am I missing?

Metric Seagate IronWolf Pro 20TB Seagate Exos X20 20TB WD Red Pro 20TB
Spindle speed (RPM) 7200 7200 7200
Internal transfer rate 285 MB/s 272 MB/s 268 MB/s
Gas Helium Helium ???
Cache 256MB 256MB 512MB
CMR? Yes Yes Yes
MTBF (hours) 2.5m 2.5m 2.5m
Non-recoverable errors per bits read 1 in 10^15 1 in 10^15 1 in 10^15
Load unload cycles 600k 600k 600k
Workload rate (TB/yr) 550 550 550
Annualized Failure Rate (AFR) 0.35% 0.35% ???
Warranty 5yr 5yr 5yr
Price $349.99 $329.99 $379.99

Also, please don’t recommend shucking (those drives are in external enclosures because they didn’t pass QC to become internal HDDs).

  • Jaack18@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    seems like seagate has higher failures, WD has terrible a terrible warranty department. pick your poison

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    1 year ago

    I’ve personally just bought what is cheaper $/Gb if they’re broadly equal then features & power, if still locked I have tended towards WD. But I’m not storing anything critical and if a drive failed, I’d be annoyed but that’s about it.

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    1 year ago

    Can’t help with these 3 specifically. I ordered som wd gokd drives. Which are the ones intended for datacenters. Price was lower. And I think it was 10^16 not 10^15. That may not sound like alot. But doing the math, number of bits on a raid6 of 8 14tb drives, basically going to hit 10^15. And they supposedly have firmware to handle vibration. Maybe worth looking into.

    As for these 3, I would think they would all be fine choices.

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    1 year ago

    I always run WD. None of my drives have failed in regular use. Been using WD in my NAS for two years now without issues.

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      1 year ago

      You seem to be in the minority in regards to seagate, any particular reason you prefer them for internal drives?

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    1 year ago

    I bought 4 used 16TB ironwolfs for a really good price. They only had a year of on time. I have used them for 2 years now and no issues. I also haven’t had any issued with any of the WD, Toshiba or Hitachi drives I own–and my Hitachi is 15 years old.

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    1 year ago

    Seagate has permanently lost my business since their 50% failure rates from many years ago. It’s well documented if you search for it. Never again. Lost multiple arrays because of this.

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    1 year ago

    Had a lot of wd fail over the years. Since upgrading to Seagate exos only. Haven’t had any failures. Maybe due to the fact they are enterprise drives. Not sure. But very happy with Seagate exos

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    1 year ago

    QC in only external defects like a stripped mounting hole. Drives themselves are still hend to same standards.

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    1 year ago

    I was collecting dead hard drives for the magnets and shit, very few WD drives. Most drives were Seagate. I will never personally buy one again.