• Quasarbeing@alien.topBEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    *stares at 20TB for $280 Seagate Exos*

    Does it really need to?

    Already asking for alot.

  • good4y0u@alien.topBEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    HDDs are getting cheaper at the high end.

    SSDs are still new enough that they are still figuring out how to get economic viability where HDDs were a decade ago.

    1TB for $100 is new in NVMEs for example.

  • ChumpyCarvings@alien.topBEnglish
    2·
    10 months ago

    This is a bit of a cherry pick.

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    Sure the drives are dropping slower but at the end of the day, I have a mental ‘limit’ on hard drive prices.

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    I paid $250 AUD for 3TB once.

    Then I paid $250 AUD for 5TB

    Then 8 and finally, 16.

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    It’s taken some time but it continues to evolve. It’s going to take a very long time before an SSD which lasts in excess of 5 to 10 years, matches HDD speeds (you heard me) and costs less than $250 AUD for 16TB.

  • Ahab_Ali@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    I believe that is just the nature of the beast. SSDs are much simpler from a manufacturing standpoint and benefit from general advances in chip production that keep driving the costs down.

    • nisaaru@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      NANDs are still produced in 14-15nm afaik. The only reason they got more capacity is 3d stacking but that has an obvious cost wall.

  • pascalbrax@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Spinning rust storage prices are hold in place by the WD/Seagate cartel.

    They can’t do the same shit with Samsung, Micron, intel, etc. in the game.

  • Remon520@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    The main cause is that when it comes to 12TB HDDs and higher , there are only a few manufacturers like WD, Seagate, and Toshiba. However, in the case of SSDs, everyone seems to be making one—MSI, Gigabyte, Samsung, Asus, and more. With HDDs, there’s no real competition based on cost or price anymore; it’s more about who can reach 40 or 50TB first. who can reach 40 or 50TB first.

  • pmjm@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    SSD prices will likely rise in 2024. The market has been massively oversupplied, but they are reducing manufacturing to compensate. It will take some time to reflect in the MSRP but it’s coming. Buy now while it’s cheap!

    • Y0tsuya@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Get ready for incessant “SSD cartel” “price-gouging” posts for the next 2~3 years. It always happens every time these cyclical markets recover from troughs.

  • KHRoN@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    this is actually bad news, because el cheapo ssds are not good for “unpowered” long time storage

    expensive 1 bit per cell ssds maybe, but not multiple bits per cell (and those are the cheap types of ssds)

    so for long time hoarders nothing really changes until hdd supply lasts, let’s hope hdd supply will last for long years

    • warmike_1@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      1 bit per cell ssds

      Are they even there on the market anymore? I couldn’t find any in my country’s dominant tech store chain, and there are barely any MLC drives (it’s just Samsung SM883 up to 1TB and Dell 400 up to 480GB)

  • Vile-X@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Pretty common. Drive manufacturers aren’t able to reduce costs much because most of the cost cutting measures were figured out already. With SSDs there is still plenty of opportunity

    • DanTheMan827@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      In the $300 range…

      Even if they’re “only” SATA speeds, that would be such a game changer for a NAS