In this case i was talking about WD specifically

Their website prices are virtually the same in the different versions of their european websites

for the 20TB red pro:

• 622 eur in germany

• 627 eur in france

• 556 pounds in the UK, which is 638 eur at the current exchange rate

So brexit doesn’t seem to have an impact here, its just that WD sells at much higher prices in europe compared to the US

In general, hardware does tend to be a little bit more expensive in europe, but not by this much. WD seems to take it to a whole other level.

No, WD drives are just more expensive in europe

(The price on the european websites already includes VAT, don’t know if thats the case for the US website)

The 20TB easystores got down to $280 about 3 weeks ago

I would rather buy a 20TB Red Pro with 5 years warranty for $300 dollars, than a 20TB easystore for $280 that loses its warranty when shucked

At some point penny pinching just isn’t worth it

Also, i have a shucked 18TB easystore and its much louder than my 16TB red pros

if you’re using ZFS’ RAID1 and lose 2 drives, it all goes. Or RAID2 and lose 3 drives, it all goes. Because the data is allocated across many drives, there is not a fundamental “one file one drive” scenario

That has nothing to do with how you setup ZFS though…

That is just the reality of how redundant arrays work, whether its ZFS or hardware RAID

Losing 2 or 3 disks at once should be a very low probability and either way it shouldn’t be a big issue if you have backups (raid and unraid aren’t backups)

You’ll just be throwing away all the knowledge you have about Unraid and jumping into another setup where configuration is important. Except, in this case, if you screw up the ZFS setup you risk losing ALL YOUR DATA.

I recently setup my truenas and it was pretty easy after following a youtube video

but now i’m curious how i can lose ALL MY DATA with zfs

Can you provide any examples of what would cause this?

I actually pulled the parity drive out of my array just to get better speeds because with parity you’re automatically 1/2-ing your disk write i/o. With WD shucks 5400 rpm’s I should be able to hit over 100 mb/s writes, but with parity plus sabnzb repairing I’m lucky to get 40 mb/s. It’s just abysmal.

Yeah you will only hit max speed on any disk when doing pure sequential workloads, if starts doing multiple things at once and writing to different spots your write speed will take a hit

I have 2x20TB, 7x8TB, and 1x6TB spinners and 3x500GB SSDs, so a typical RAID setup isn’t really possible.

You could still try something like truenas

You could create a 60TB pool by doing a mirror vdev (2x20TB) + a raidz2 vdev (7x8TB)

In terms of parity you would be on par with your unraid setup, and in terms of speed you would be combining the speed of the slowest 20TB disk + something like the average speed of 5 disks on the raidz2

Also you’d be using ZFS so your files would be checksumed to protect against bitrot

The SSDs you could either use them as a metadata + small files vdev for that 60TB pool or use them in a second all SDD pool

The 6TB disk i can’t really fit it anywhere unfortunately, maybe as an offline backup for some of your more important files?

I don’t know anything about windows storage unfortunately… Good luck

I have a couple of the Flexidock bays

Quick question

Do the disks feel snug when they’re in or can they move around?